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Chronological Time and Psychological Time

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There is chronological time — time by the watch — such as when you have to be at the doctor’s office at a certain designated time, or the fact that you have to be at work at a certain time. However, there is also psychological time, such as when the brain imagines (to itself) that it will be less fearful in the future. Psychological time often departs from real, substantive frameworks and oftentimes flows into the fictitious, the imaginary, and the illusory.

Take the psychological time-based situation of a typical person imagining that he or she will be less greedy in the future, for example. The person imagines the greed (that he or she is now) as being separate from what he or she actually is. It is something that can be controlled from a distance, to his or her typical perspective anyway. Then, a separate “I” (that is projected to be separate from the greed) is formulated to go beyond the greed, controlling it, over time. (The imagined separation from the greed is, itself, a form of greed.) That person does not fully perceive that he or she is not separate from what the greed actually is. So the typical brain separates itself from greed (during the very distorted perception of greed) and then imagines or projects a state of being beyond it, or of controlling it. The typical brain sees greed as what it has, or as what it can control, rather than as what it actually is. It additionally projects a “should be” (i.e., an imagined state beyond greed) and strives to get to that imagined point over time.

A mind of deep, holistic intelligence deals with this differently. With such a mind, psychological time is not so much a factor. It instantly sees (without the movement of time being a factor) the greed as being what it is… not as being what it “has” (or what it is contending with or controlling). Here, the perceiver is “that which is perceived”; the controller is not separate from the controlled; really, there is no controller in this situation (and, really, there never truly was, in all actuality). The greed, by the way, likely dissipates without effort due to holistic intelligence (which has its own energy and profound order); or it never occurs much in the first place. (The word “has” in the previous sentence does not mean or imply ownership from a distance. By the way, ownership from a distance implies greed, doesn’t it?)

Here is another extremely interesting time-oriented point. Many top scientists — Einstein among them, who formulated the philosophy of spacetime, with space and time being one thing — are now supportive of the Block Universe perspective. It is also referred to as Eternalism. It, in one fell swoop (and whether you like it or not), nullifies the notion of free-will; however, it does not nullify the responsibility that each one of us has for the whole, for all others, and for the entire environment. Watch the following short video if you are not familiar with it. (You can watch it for a time.)

Goodbye Ice Ice Baby … Photo by Thomas Peace c. 2021

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  1. “Here, the perceiver is «that which is perceived»; the controller is not separate from the controlled” Ah wise words if only we could recognize the truths here we could creates bridges to one another that are presently unimaginable in this culture today…

    I did watch the video – I keep a “both and” perspective when it comes to the way humans experience time as linear – there is a linear aspect that all of us must deal with but breaking through that perceived reality allows us to enter a different way of seeing, being… I am not sure I would call this timelessness or an eternal anything but there we do experience time as NOW. Einstein was brilliant but he was not able to account for the troubling reality of quantum physics – remarking that “god does not play dice” when confronted with an evolutionary perspective – and more than a hundred years later physics has not been able to integrate the two perspectives – an eternal universe and an evolutionary one. As a mystic I do enter NOW occasionally – as a naturalist I am deeply engaged with an evolutionary perspective because changes are occurring on this planet that are destroying life. This reality is concrete – I witness it as I watch whole mountains raped – I only wish it was an illusion –

    Very thoughtful post as usual – i love engaging like this.

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    • The perceiver is “that which is perceived,” it would be marvelous (and the world would indeed change for the better manyfold if people understood it)… but most brains are too fragmented, unfortunately.

      I had many (over 8 or so) hour-long conversations with Einstein’s friend and protege, Professor David Bohm. Bohm had an insightful way of dealing with the causal nature of quantum mechanics, but many scientists, at this particular time, are doubting what he formulated; that may change. Bohm and i mostly talked about meditation and philosophical-oriented things.

      I think i understand how quantum mechanics can be integrated into regular causal frameworks and i think i understand how (and why) quantum entanglement works.

      Thanks about the piece. 🙂

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      • Oh I am very familiar with Bohm’s work although I never spoke to him – how absolutely wonderful that you did. The Implicate/explicate order made so much sense to me especially after it became clear that the implicate order included an evolutionary aspect… originally it seemed to me that it did not…I would love it if you wanted to tell me how you see quantum mechanics integrated into the rest…. as for quantum entanglement – well, my lifetime experiences seem to demonstrate quantum entanglement. I have been fascinated by this stuff for 40 years. Thanks Tom so much. Bohm , of course was a keen philosopher – I think most brilliant scientists get it that without understanding philopshy as context vision is limited.

      • That’s awesome, Sara, that you are familiar with Bohm’s work! He was such a sweet and compassionate person. During our one-on-one conversations, he was very dedicated to understanding truth and how such truth connects with the real world.

        I no longer want to share my insights about quantum mechanics and how it ties into and fits with the larger whole. Some of the understanding of it can be misused and i’m not sure humans are stable enough and pure enough to correctly deal with the consequences of what is involved. I’m content enough with the practical, philosophical and mindfulness aspect of things… and, really, that is what truly matters. 🙂 (I wish more people would understand it!)

  2. Intriguing (I’m inclined to agree but then I guess that’s not exactly a choice, since it already existed) – thank you for the video!

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  3. Overwhelming and mindboggling, and I won’t pretend to understand it all, but it certainly is very interesting to try!

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  4. Thank you for the video Tom as well as the closeup of the ice … Mother Nature’s handiwork is superb and very delicate.

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      • It is deep stuff Tom – I will give you that. My furry friends and I are enjoying the respite from the cold and also are enjoying the sun as well. With the March winds howling, I think it is about time for kite flying. I will think of you with your kite that you showed me in a video one time. I hope you still get a chance to get out and do that large kite flying this Spring.

      • Yes, Linda, i’ll try to do some stunt kite flying this spring. My cousins said that they would be interested in giving it a try. Much too windy now… up to 40 nasty gusts. (Our climate will be getting more and more violent, due to man’s abuse of it.)
        I’m so glad that your furry friends were enjoying the repite from the cold weather! 🙂

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